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1 Rank-up Discussion on Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:59 pm

Nick Saturn

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B-Rank
Hey, I like the new rank-up rules and all. But those requirements are very extreme to my own opinion. Did the staff did the math? Well I did, here's the word count:

1st: N/A
2nd: Fight/4500
3nd: 3750
4th: 10050 / 4700
5th: 16000
At worst: 34300.

With 1st, 2nd, etc., I mean the requirements from C to B rank. Also I based the 4th from the fact that every stat you have starts off with C.\

Here's a link to the new rank-up rule.
http://www.narutosaga.com/t11748-rank-rules

What do you guys think?

I'd like to hear some staff-input as well, but please don't swamp the thread.


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Mission: 2/3A

2 Re: Rank-up Discussion on Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:04 pm

Nick Saturn

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Here's my suggestion:

1st: Kage approval
2nd: Ronin have to spar, Nukenin have to kill. Villagers 3 B's or 2 B if done in a team
3rd: 3 C, 2 B Jutsus trained & purchased
4th: 4 C2+, 3 C3+, 2 B2+
5th: 4 topics with people that has at least 8 replies has to have above 3000 words.


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Mission: 2/3A

3 Re: Rank-up Discussion on Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:08 pm

Dameon

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Honestly seems pretty fair to me. Seems like staff wanted to make sure the rank ups were given to those who are an active part of the website not someone who just walks in spams a bunch of missions and takes the cookie.


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4 Re: Rank-up Discussion on Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:12 pm

Ray Kato

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Chuunin
They're still a bit too harsh though. The whole 8 thread business is a bit too much, since as it is there's a difficulty within timings and stuff, and I've had people leave every single one of my thread without replying


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5 Re: Rank-up Discussion on Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:18 pm

Nick Saturn

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Being active =/= willing to write 34K words. For one rank up, this would seem too much for me. Keep in mind, 20K-55K is the word count for a middle-grade book.


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Jutsus: 0/1D; 0/1C; 2/2B; 1/1A
Mission: 2/3A

6 Re: Rank-up Discussion on Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:41 pm

Nick Saturn

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B-Rank
From B to A, who are interested:
1st: N/A
2nd: Fight / 7500
3rd: 6750
4th: Guessing that they start at B: (taking the above average since I'm not sure how that one would work) 6000
5th: 20K

Best case scenario: 32750 Words. And this is the ABSOLUTE best scenario. Where you win the fight right away and use that topic for the words towards the 5th requirement. Given the fact that you don't die, alternatively do the missions for the extra 7500 words.
Compared to C to B's best case: 25200. Considering that some of these requirements. (The 5th one especially) will mean that a lot of topics will fail, so give it another 10K buffer.


If these rules won't be changed; well, have fun writing books gents.


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Jutsus: 0/1D; 0/1C; 2/2B; 1/1A
Mission: 2/3A

7 Re: Rank-up Discussion on Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:35 pm

Nick Saturn

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I just thought of a shortcut I hadn't thought of before, so I suppose these new rule changes are pretty nice.

The shortcut is: train the stats in social threads, and find someone willing to be defeated for plot purposes and train your stats in that thread too.


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Social Threads: 1/10
Jutsus: 0/1D; 0/1C; 2/2B; 1/1A
Mission: 2/3A

8 Re: Rank-up Discussion on Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:18 pm

Yuzu Ren

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I actually have to say these new rules are actually very good, but might be a bit harsh on new comers....

If you can not actually reach 50k words then well for a rank up its nothing, i do think they could probably lower the Genin to Chuunin one a bit, but thats my opinion. The others seem fair as they are since without events it already takes quite a large number of words already and now they atleast rewarding you for social threads promoting more roleplay rather than infinite numbers of sparring sessions or mission grinds


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9 Re: Rank-up Discussion on Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:44 pm

Daraku

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Of course we did the math, we've been preparing this revamp for months. The point was to make it not so easy to rush the entire process. 34k words is manageable when you're writing them over a period of months rather than a few weeks. Too many people are shooting for S-Rank as their only goal and not developing plot, doing enough missions, or making their character strong enough to deserve a rank up. That's the whole point behind the rank up revamp. Now you really can't rush it. It's going to take time but it's not the end of the world and it makes the system more balanced.

Besides, you're writing the 34k words as trainings/missions/jutsu/threads, rather than just one long requirement. It's split into separate parts that each make your character stronger as you complete them and the each rank will come with time by just plain RPing. I think you're just exaggerating it a bit. The system before was too easy and everyone was far too used to just paying ryo to rank up

10 Re: Rank-up Discussion on Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:54 pm

Misoka

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Special Jounin
^ what Daraku said. 
I also think the new rank up system is totally fair. ^^


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11 Re: Rank-up Discussion on Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:36 pm

Unari Hitokuchi

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My main issue is the social RPing. 

At genin, you can't travel to other villages to get to RP with other people. However, at genin, you need 6 social threads before you can become a Chuunin. We're all agreed on that, correct? 

Now, here is where the  logic gets all bastard-y. 

Areas like Kumo and Suna are pretty inactive people wise. Because they can't travel, they can't meet up with people from other villages, and thus it becomes like one giant bird cage. WHilst you can post requests like mine to get more RPers, I doubt it's going to be very popular due to being a genin and hey, who wants to RP with a genin?

Whilst I agree the rank up requirements are fair, I think perhaps the circumstances surrounding them could be more attended to.


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12 Re: Rank-up Discussion on Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:23 am

Lamya

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New rank up rules are...well actually quite good and in effect also better balanced, with Wanderers losing their 'quick rank up' ability compared to those tied to a village.

13 Re: Rank-up Discussion on Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:55 pm

Misoka

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Special Jounin
Hmm I do understand Unari's problem :/ Maybe the travel rules should be changed: for example, allow a Genin to travel on his/her own (with an NPC if you like)


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14 Re: Rank-up Discussion on Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:24 am

Yuzu Ren

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He could be right but at Genin level you could probably try socialising with the other genin or run to the Kazekage or someone. I think Nanashi is in charge of Suna right now but if you in Iwa... they full of criminals so guess you will need help in that case. Either way its not like you can not find people for social threads


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15 Re: Rank-up Discussion on Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:57 am

Nick Saturn

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The social requirements are a bit crazy. I need to get 30 replies in a topic when I thread with 3 people for the thread to count. Long topics are around 15 to 20 replies, topics with 30 replies or more are very rare.

I suggest lowering the post count and heightening the word count? :s


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Jutsus: 0/1D; 0/1C; 2/2B; 1/1A
Mission: 2/3A

16 Re: Rank-up Discussion on Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:25 am

Daraku

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Rather than talking it up here, post it in the suggestions thread or send a PM to an admin. I'll inform someone of your concerns when I get the chance but I'm busy at the moment.

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